Thursday, March 20, 2025

Yeah, I'm Talking to You

 *I wrote this in the Spring of 2023.  It got away from me time wise because my editor, aka my wife, told me that it was wandering a bit.  I took that advice to heart, and I wandered away from ever finishing it.  However, since it’s done, I thought I would post.  An important note is at the time, “Killers of the Flower Moon” had not been released.  I have not watched it, so I did not rank it.  The link to the article I initially read was edited to include it.  The two lists are not in sync because of that.

 

In the middle of November(2022), I read an article in Variety that ranked all 25 of Martin Scorsese films.  After reading it I realized two things; there were quite a few I have not seen and that I had strong feelings about this ranking.  So, I started a journey after Thanksgiving to watch all of his films in chronological order and rank them myself.  I finished this endeavor on March 3. 2023. It was mostly an enjoyable film watching experience. (If you want some context, I recommend reading that article first, but it is not necessary.)

Now, you may be wondering what qualifies me to rank a master filmmaker films?  Well, not a lot really, other than I watched a lot of movies in my day and I watched all of Scorsese’s movies very recently.  In essence, all rankings are a matter of personal opinion and taste.  I don’t think mine is the definitive list; it is simply how I feel about these movies.

Ranking Scorsese movies is tough. First, there are so many great movies!  There is a reason he is in the conversation for best director ever.  Second, although many associate him with gangster movies, he crosses many genres which some may appreciate more than others.  As I watched and thought about my rankings, I used a non-consistent set of criteria not based in science at all.  Things I took into consideration entertainment value, technique, themes, characters, story, actors, and other things that may not always be conscious but had an impact on what I thought or felt.  Additionally, after watching the movies, I usually did a little reading on each movie to find out the history and stories from the film making.  Some of it was really inciteful, other times not so much.

A little data: Scorsese currently has 25 films (until “Killers of the Flower Moon” comes out later this year).  To watch all of them, it is 3,436 minutes = 57 hours 16 minutes = 2 days and 9 hours.  If you were really committed, you could watch all of them in one weekend.  I don’t think I would recommend that though.  Not included in this list are his documentaries, short films, or “New York Stories”.  As I go through my ranking, I will also note the ranking from the original article. Let’s get to the list:

 

25. New York, New York - 1977 (20) – never seen before

If there is one truly bad movie in this list, it is this one.  Maybe I’m not the right audience for this jump into the musical genre for Scorsese. Or maybe I have seen DeNiro in too many things to believe him as a carefree sax player after the war.  Scorsese said he made this to pay tribute to musicals of old.  It is a weird follow up to Taxi Driver which he put out the year before.  I will say this though, even with it being my least favorite there are two things to take from it.  The last 20 minutes of Liza Minnelli being Liza Minnelli is great.  It is essentially a Broadway show and she shines in it.  I know who Liza is, but I’m not familiar with her work at all.  I was really impressed with her in that part of the film.  Second, this is where the song “New York, New York” came from… which, in hindsight, I feel dumb for not making that connection before.  I honestly thought the song came first.  Interestingly as well, is that the song didn’t gain prominence until a little known singer named Frank Sinatra recorded in 1980 and it became the version that everyone knows today.

24. Boxcar Bertha - 1972 (25) – never seen before

In his second movie, Scorsese did what many a young filmmaker has done and got a job with Roger Corman.  Nothing really good or bad to say. It is supposedly based on a true story, but that has come into question quite a bit over the years.  It does mark the first endeavor into the “inspired by a true story” that Scorsese will have a lot in his career. 

23. After Hours – 1985 (18) – never seen before

This is quirky and the most 80s movie in the collection.  It is weird and wandering.  Apparently it is a cult film.  I don’t think I had never even heard of it before. *(I have learned since the Ted Lasso episode “Beard After Hours” was highly inspired by this movie.  So, that’s fun!)

22. Bringing Out the Dead 1999 (14) – never seen before

This begins the section I’d categorize as “I don’t think it is a bad movie - there are just so many movies that are better”.  Nic Cage does a great job as does the rotating cast of supporting characters.  From a movie making perspective, I probably don’t give it enough for credit for the themes it is examining.

21. Cape Fear 1991 (12) – seen before

I watched this movie years ago and didn’t care for it at all.  Watching it this time, I tried to be more open-minded.  I can say I still didn’t really care for it.  It is a remake of a movie from 1962, that I also did not care for when I watched it.  The interesting thing about this movie is that Scorsese was brought into direct this after Goodfellas because his stock was at an all-time high and he owed Universal Studio for financing his controversial film “The Last Temptation of Christ.”  Otherwise, his follow up to Goodfellas would have been “Schindler’s List.”  With all that, from a movie making perspective, it is a solid movie.  Scorsese does a good job with the thrilling parts.  I just think the plot isn’t good and I think that has an effect on some of the actor’s performance.  Many people praise Juliette Lewis for her performance and think she should have won the Oscar.  DeNiro was phenomenal in it.  By far his portrayal of Max Cady really shows off his acting ability.

20. Mean Streets 1973 (19) – never seen before

Although his third movie, I would say this is the first movie that really shows Scorsese developing his style.  It is the first time we see some shots and style that become classic Scorsese in later movies, the best example is the camera going down the bar and zooming in to Harvey Keitel.  Just really solid.  This is also the first collaboration between DeNiro and Scorsese, which when “Killers of the Flower Moon” comes out this year is a relationship that will have spanned 50 years.  Incredible partnership. 

19. The Last Temptation of Christ 1988 (8) – seen before

This came out when I was 13 and I saw it.  I don’t remember very much about it.  What I do remember much better is the controversy and anger that this movie generated.  It was big time drama.  This was a passion project for Scorsese.  He tried to get it made for years.  Religion is something that Scorsese has explored in more than one of his films.  Some of the casting choices are fascinating.

18. Kundun 1997 (15) – never seen before

Another exploration of religion, to some extent as it is also about post war politics in Tibet.  It is a look at history that may not be well known and a religion that is not well known in the States.  This is a beautifully shot movie.  Many of the cast were not actually actors, but were relatives of the Dalai Lama on whom the movie is based.  Fascinating enough, this movie also had a great deal of controversy, just not here.  China hates this movie because of the subject.  So much so, that Scorsese and others involved in production were banned from China forever (although that has been slacked in recent years).  Disney also buried the film and didn’t market it at all.  Michael Eisner, CEO of Disney at the time, even apologized for making it calling it a “stupid mistake.”  For some reason, it makes me like it more. 

17. Who’s That Knocking at My Door 1967 (23) – never seen before

I will be the first to say that not everyone will like this movie.  This was Scorsese’s first movie and it is so different.  It is very much an artsy, end of film school type movie.  I enjoyed the themes.  I think it was ahead of its time and a product of its time, which may not make sense.  It also marks the beginning of Scorsese and Harvey Keitel’s relationship which I didn’t even know was a thing.  Keitel was in most of the early Scorsese movies and most recently in The Irishmen.  This movie also has an interesting release history and had graphic sex scenes added so it would get some distribution.  Watching it, you can tell good things are going to come from the director.

16. The Aviator 2004 (21) – never seen before

Scorsese’s second movie with Leonardo DiCaprio.  I would say it is a fine movie about a complicated man.  All the acting performances are strong.  It is beautifully shot.  It is long though, almost three hours. Now it covers almost three decades of Howard Hughes life and some very exciting parts, but it was long.

15. Silence 2016 (1) – never seen before

This is one of the biggest discrepancies between the original article and my rankings.  And it was one of the reasons I went on this journey.  I very much had in my mind what the number 1 movie should be and Silence was not it.  This is another foray into religion and what it means to people for Scorsese.  I think it is a very strong movie and I learned something from history that I did not know before. That always makes me like a movie more.  However, it was hard for me to have sympathy for the main characters and what they were going through, knowing the history of the church in other parts of the country.  It certainly had an impact of where I rated it and I realize my bias plays a part.  Once again, this is a long movie, 3 hours, and you feel how long it is at times.  From a pure movie perspective, it is very solid and I see why people would rate it high.

14. Gangs of New York 2002 (11) – seen many times before

This is the first collaboration between Scorsese and DiCaprio.  It started a string of four straight movies they did together a break of one movie and then back at it for another.  This relationship will also continue in “Killers of the Flower Moon.” I would say that this movie is consistently underrated and if you said to me it should be higher on the list, I probably wouldn’t argue too much.  It may not be historically accurate, by the visuals are great and Daniel Day Lewis chews up the scenery.  It is brutal and visceral and speaks to both the time it was set and the current time we are in today.

13. Hugo 2011 (22) – never seen before

The only one that I could watch with the kids!  I think it is a story of innocence, coming of age, and mystery.  It is visually stunning.  It is also predictable, but I enjoyed watching and was entertained by it.

12. The Age of Innocence 1993 (5) – never seen before

I didn’t know what to expect from this one when I started it.  It is a great period movie.  It is very well acted.  Just a really solid film.

11. Raging Bull 1980 (2) – seen once before

This will probably be my most controversial take.  While I can appreciate some of the movie making processes of this movie, I don’t like this movie.  I don’t think that Jake LaMotta is compelling at all.  But there are some great shots in this movie, the boxing scenes are really well done.  It is DeNiro and Pesci’s first movie together and they have such great chemistry on screen that we will see repeated over and over again.  Those things are what makes me rank it this high.  The author ranking this movie so high is another reason I pursued my journey.

10. Shutter Island 2010 (13) – seen before

This is a well-made thriller and is more interesting on subsequent viewings after you know the twist.  I had a friend tell me that it is a master class in editing and I have to agree.  It is just superb.  In many ways it is throwback to thrillers of old with a lot of Hitchcock influences.

9. The Wolf of Wall Street 2013 (10) – seen before

This movie is a ride.  A drug fueled hectic ride of chaos.  It really shows the excess that can exist for a certain segment of the population.  It is well paced and doesn’t feel as long as it is.  Solid overall.

8. The Irishman 2019 (16) – never seen before

At 3 hours 30 minutes this is by far his longest movie.  It could have been probably an hour shorter with the shortening of some scenes or deletion of them.  With that said, it is a great movie.  DeNiro’s best acting in years.  Pesci is great, playing an understated character.  Pacino was on point.  The history presented is very questionable, but the way it was filmed and the performances were incredible.  It is an impressive opus from Scorsese.

7. The Color of Money 1986 (24) – seen numerous times

The third major reason why I started this journey was this being ranked so low.  I can’t tell you the first time I watched this movie, but I know I always liked it.  Tom Cruise is great.  Paul Newman is great.  Their relationship and chemistry are great.  This movie has grown in my estimation as well because the first time I saw it I did not know it was a sequel to “The Hustler.” Watch “The Hustler” and then watch this and you will gain a new appreciation of Newman’s nuanced performance and the theme. 

6. The King of Comedy 1982 (9) – never seen before

If there is one movie on the list that you haven’t seen and you want to see, this is the one to go with.  It is incredible satire. DeNiro plays a guy who wants to be a comedian and things don’t go as planned for him.  In the world we live in now where seemingly everyone wants to be famous; this movie holds up so well compared to other movies of the era.  Jerry Lewis also gets high marks for his portrayal of a late night talk show host who is over it all.

5. Taxi Driver 1976 (6) – never seen before

Yeah, I’m talking to you.  You’re the only movie at number 5. It is hard to believe this movie was made in 1976.  It is so much in the cultural zeitgeist that I knew more about certain scenes of this movie than the movie itself until I watched it.  Think about it, how many times have we seen some take on the “Are you talking to me scene?”  That says something about the impact of the movie.  That aside, it never misses a beat. Travis Bickle could be anybody.  It is another visceral, gritty movie from Scorsese.   DeNiro is incredible. It lost to Rocky for Best Picture. After watching this, I don’t know if that was the right call.

4. Alice Doesn’t Live Here Anymore 1974 (7) – never seen before

This was a surprise for me with this being so high.  Since I watched in chronological order of when they were released, this was the 4th movie I watched and stayed there until Goodfellas.  This movie spoke to me and I saw glimpses of my life and those in my life.  It is often funny and often tragic. Scorsese explores the world of a woman, played by Ellen Burstyn who won Best Actress, who goes from one abusive relationship to another.  It explores how it impacts her and her decisions and how it also affects her son.  It shows how easy it is to get trapped in situations and break chains that hold you down.  The fun fact about this movie is it was turn into a little sitcom called “Alice.” The 70s were a different time where a movie about a woman overcoming abuse gets turned into a sitcom at a diner and made “Kiss my grits” part of the American lexicon.

3. The Departed 2006 (4) – seen before

This is the only movie that Scorsese has won an Oscar for Best Director.  That is really surprising considering how long he has been making quality films.  For sure, he should have one for one other movie.  This is just such a solid movie.  The acting, the shots, the story.  It is hard to find a flaw.  It is a good watch.  This could very easily be in the top spot.

2. Casino 1995 (17) – seen numerous times before

The other gangster movie. I don’t know what it is about this movie.  I find the story telling compelling.  Sharon Stone is fantastic.  She really showed off her acting skills.  Pesci and DeNiro show off their chemistry again.  They are such great acting partners.

1. Goodfellas 1990 (3) -seen numerous times before

There is just one question about this movie: how did it not win Best Picture? It lost to “Dances with Wolves”, which is a fine movie, but it is not better than Goodfellas.  Of all of his movies, I think this is the best paced.  It is 2 ½ hours long, but it moves along so well you don’t realize that.  The three main guys play their parts so well it is hard to not think of them in these roles.  The day in life of Henry Hill where he is driving around trying to get the drugs, cooking dinner, avoiding the feds, etc. is depicted brilliantly and the frantic pace showing how frantic Hill was is exquisite.  It is just such a strong film.

 

 

So, there it is. My rankings and thoughts on the 25 Martin Scorsese films.  I feel I didn’t do them all justice, but I was trying to keep my blurbs brief.  I feel some of the movies don’t need long explanations, they are what they are so to speak.

I do have some general Scorsese movie thoughts I will share as well. 

1.      His use of narration to move plot or explain scenes is great way to move the movie forward.  It helps set the scenes. From what I noticed, if the movie was based on a book, the narration was taken directly from the book.  It makes for a richer movie watching experience in my opinion.

2.      Many of his movies are “inspired” by true stories, 12 by my count. I just find that an interesting tidbit. I would say there are some generous liberties with some of the history and some of the people the stories come from are questionable narrators from a credibility standpoint.

3.      I think a fair criticism of Scorsese is that he glamorized some very awful people. I don’t think he did enough to show the consequences of these people’s actions.  In some cases, it feels like we are almost supposed to feel sorry for these people.  But it is hard to feel sorry for mobsters and wall street thieves when they are so immoral…

 

Now, go watch a Scorsese movies! Please feel free to add any thoughts or comments below.  I really enjoyed talking about this stuff.


Thanks for reading!

Tuesday, March 18, 2025

What's in A Nick Name

This entry may be the essence of the title of the blog.  Truly, insignificant yet interesting, to me, information about to be presented.

 This past weekend I spent at WIU in Macomb hanging out with my friend JB and remembering our departed friend Coach.  As we were talking about this, that, and everything as one does with old friend, the topic came up about the Westerwinds nickname that the women athletic teams used to have. After a cursory search, we found that the name came about not long after Title IX passed in 1977.  My assumption is that at the time, Leathernecks was seen as too masculine and not feminine enough.  I could be wrong about that, but that is my best guess. If I am incorrect, please correct me in the comments.  Anyway, in 2009 the Westerwinds name was retired and all athletes at WIU are now Leathernecks.

This conversation had me asking this question, what other college teams have a distinct name for their men’s and women’s teams.  Off the top of our heads, we came up with nothing and I thought it needed to be researched.  However, I pointed out to JB that I would have some caveats to this discussion:

1. I was auto-ruling out any school that just had Lady in front, i.e. Tigers vs. Lady Tigers. No disrespect to the schools that have done this, but it just seems lazy and ridiculous, perhaps a bit patronizing. “Oh, it’s the Lady Tigers…” said in a condescending voice sort of way.  I was surprised to find that there were only about 30 give or take a few that actually followed this naming convention anyway.  I thought there would be more.

     2.  I was auto-ruling out any school that just put -ette at the end of the name.  Much to my happy surprise, there were only 2 schools I found that did this and I will give them mention here.  

Kentucky State University Thorobreds and Thorobrettes

Mississippi Valley State University Delta Devils and Devilettes

 

As we continue, generally, I will respect the no Lady stipulation, but I do want to point out some just plain odd ones with some commentary:

Bluefield State University Big Blues and Lady Blues (I suppose calling them Big Lady Blues would be inappropriate)

Illinois College Blue Boys and Lady Blues (Blue Girls to easy?)

Delta State University Statesmen and Lady Statesmen-(States Women is right there!)

Motlow State Community College Bucks and Lady Bucks (this is just funny… and isn’t there a whole community fighting against Lady Bucks.)

Western Kentucky University Hilltoppers and Lady Toppers (they don’t even get to be Lady Hilltoppers, just Toppers.)

Northeastern Oklahoma A&M College Golden Norsemen and Lady Norse (I got nothing for this one.)

 

All right, now there are some derivatives of that naming convention, but they make sense from a gender perspective, so not as lazy in my opinion:

Centenary College of Louisiana Gentlemen and Ladies

El Paso Community College Tejanos and Tejanas

UMass Minutemen and Minutewomen

Oberlin College Yeomen and Yeowomen

University of Puerto Rico at Humacao Buhos and Buhas

Saint Peter’s University Peacocks and Peahens (although it seems they are all called the Peacocks now.)

Claremont McKenna College, Harvey Mudd College, and Scripps College are all the Stags and Athenas

Hardin Simmons University, McNeese State U, New Mexico Highlands U, Oklahoma State U, University of Wyoming are all the Cowboys and Cowgirls

 

Next, the ones that just seem unnecessarily pointless:

University of Central Missouri Mules and Jennies (a jenny is a female mule.)

McLennan Community College Highlanders and Highlassies

Northland College LumberJacks and LumberJills

Stephen F Austin State University Lumberjacks and Ladyjacks

University of Central Arkansas Bears and Sugar Bears (what’s the point of the Sugar, just the same as Lady.)

University of Hawaii Rainbow Warriors and Rainbow Wahine (Wahine is Hawaii for woman/women.)

Montana State University – Northern They are the Lights and Skylights (I didn’t know lights need to be genderfied. Going by the Northern Lights is a pretty cool name though.)

Kaskaskia College Blue Devils and Blue Angels (What, women can’t be devils, men can’t be angels. I’m sure no one would agree with that?)

 

After getting those out of the way, we are at the heart of the question.  I found five that truly fit the answer to the question where the names are truly distinct.  I present to you these five schools: (men’s names are first, women’s are second0

University of Arkansas-Monticello Boll Weevils and Cotton Blossoms

California Lutheran University Kingsmen and Regals

Louisiana Tech University Bulldogs and Lady Techsters (I know, I know it has a Lady in front, but the names are so different to be unique names in my opinion.)

Xavier University of Louisiana Gold Rush and Gold Nuggetts

Arkansas Tech University Wonder Boys and Golden Suns – (I found this information fascinating as to why they are different and probably plays into the Westerwind as an idea narrative: “Tired of being referred to as the Wonder Girls or Wonderettes, the female athletes of Arkansas Tech held a contest in the spring of 1975 to determine what their new mascot would be. Several names were nominated, but in the end, the athletes selected Golden Suns as their new nickname”.)

 

Next, I came across some names that I think are funny context to using them for males or females… partially because I’m immature:

Toros – That is Spanish for bull, but I suppose calling the women Cows would be bad.

Colts – It is a male horse, but I suppose calling the women Mares would be bad.

Beavers – I mean c’mon, there was a whole bit about it in The Naked Gun

Cougars – I know it is referring to the animal, but there is also the meaning of an older lady into younger men.  So, I purpose that those men teams become the Sugar Daddies.

 

These two are just interesting because from what I can tell they are male, but there have not been any efforts to change them and in fairness it looks like the are from when the were all male schools:

Heidelburg University Student Princes

Providence College Friars

Also, this all women school that is still all women have this name which is think is awesome:

Sweet Briar College Vixens

 

Lastly, I leave you with the Rhode Island School of Design and this entry from their Wikipedia page: “RISD has many athletic clubs and teams.[40] The hockey team is called the "Nads", and their cheer is "Go Nads!"[41] The logo for the Nads features a horizontal hockey stick with two hockey pucks at the end of the stick's handle.

The basketball team is known simply as "The Balls", and their slogan is, "When the heat is on, the Balls stick together!"[41][42] The Balls' logo consists of two balls next to one another in an irregularly shaped net.[43]

Lest the sexual innuendo of these team names and logos be lost or dismissed, the 2001 creation of the school's unofficial mascot, Scrotie, ended any ambiguity. Despite the name, Scrotie is not merely a representation of a scrotum, but is a 7-foot tall penis.”

 

 

There you have it.  Highly Insignificant. One last tidbit that I think is fun is that the USC women's team go by the Trojans, but they are also recognized as the Women of Troy. That is pretty badass. 

 

*I’m not going to do a full citation because this isn’t an academic paper, but this is where I pull my information from: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_college_team_nicknames_in_the_United_States

 

**Also, I will add any corrections to any other school if necessary.